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Neo Talks About Jesus’ Real Mission

      I said, “I like to get back to your claim that Jesus failed in his mission.” “A hellva lot of people would want to crucify you if they heard that statement.

      Neo laughed and sarcastically said, “Yeah and ironically, most to those people would be pious, loving Christians.”

      I said, “Yep most of those people will act in a very non-Christian way towards you.”

      Neo said, “That observation adds weight to my clam that Jesus failed in his mission.”

      I said, “What do you mean?”

      Neo looked smug, “If the people who call themselves Christians really got the message of Jesus, it would be unthinkable for them to want to do me harm, or do act in any manner other than the way that Jesus would have acted.”   Neo said, “Jesus failed because he was trying to get everyone to get it.” "Jesus knew that the priests of his day and the people of his day got too much into the letter of God’s law, they moved away from the spirit of God’s law.” “Jesus was trying to help the people of his time to deal with the horrors of their time, or their subjugation by the Romans.” “He was trying to confront the priest of his people’s religion that people did not have to only go to them as intermediaries to enter the Kingdom of heaven.”

      I said, “No, but Christians often will tell you that the only way to heaven was through Jesus, to believe that he was the son of God.”

      Neo said, “Yes, that is what most people think, and that is wrong….at least in the way most people think.”

      I asked, “How so?”

      Neo said, “Jesus’ message has gotten lost in the translation and over time.” “What Jesus meant was that the way to the kingdom of heaven was through his example, not just by believing that he was the son of God.” “People that believed he was the son of God were more likely to have the faith to follow his examples to enter the kingdom of heaven.”

      “He warned people that to simply believe that he was the son of God without following his example would not save them, because you had to follow Gods laws of creation which can be tapped into by following all of Jesus’ examples of the way he lived and the way he thought, and the way he loved.” “Anything short of that is simply intellectual masturbation.”

      I asked, “So are you saying that Jesus was or was not the son of God?”

      Neo said, “I believe that Jesus was and is the son of God.”

      I asked, “What do you mean was and is?” “Are you saying that Jesus still lives?”

      Neo said, “Yes.”

      I asked, “So you’re saying that you believe in the resurrection?”

      Neo said, “Yes but not the way most Christians believe, I believe in the potential of our spirit eventually surviving the body.” “I believe that is what Jesus meant.”

      I said, “But the whole theme of Christianity is that he was destined by prophecy to be the Messiah and teach the word of God and then to be crucified and to be resurrected and that those who believe in him shall not taste death, so how is it that Jesus failed?”

      Neo said, “First off let’s us get it straight that Jesus was both the manifestation of man and God; secondly Jesus did not know of his true dual nature until he became an adult, he got glimpses of it now and again as he was growing up, but he did not fully know until later; thirdly, Jesus was the most perfectly evolved man that has ever existed, physically, mentally, emotionally, and then of course spiritually.”

      Neo said, “Let’s for the moment forget about his divine nature, but as merely a man, albeit he was a perfect as a man can be in all the respects that I have described and this was not by accident, this was from the design of both nature and nurture.” “From birth to his death Jesus worked towards perfecting every aspect of himself:”

      He said, “Jesus’ initial training was of course directed by his parents, and even compared to most of the Jews of his day his early education was broader and deeper; this is because his parents though not rich were more educated than many of the Jews of their time.”

      “I said, “In what way?”

      Neo said, “Both parents could read and write and to a lesser degree speak Greek and a few other languages, and they had a love for playing instruments and Jesus developed a love for drawing although he kept that to himself because the current Jewish thought was that drawing people or images was a form of idolatry.” “Jesus’ parents were able to provide him with a level of home schooling that most other Jewish children did not have, even the children from wealthier families.

      Neo said, “Later as a youngster, Jesus, because of his genius and his charisma became a leader of many of the local boys and these boys use to engage more or less covertly in activities that would have been looked down upon and curtailed by the Jewish adults, especially the Jewish religious leaders.”

      I asked, “What did they do that was so forbidden.”

      Neo said, “Jesus and his buddies like to engage in physical activity such as sports and play that challenged the body that the ordinary hard work of the time did not do.” “Jesus admired certain aspects of the Greek ideal of a balanced, mind, body, and spirit; but the Jewish people of the day thought that the Greek love of sports and competition was dangerous in that it could lead people into worship of the athletes, or that the athletes could become too self absorbed, and thus move further away from the glory of God.”

      I said, “I think that the Jewish leaders were over reacting, but I can see that the dangers they feared were warranted, --just look at today’s athletes and how the masses worship them.”

      Neo laughed and said, “Yes the Jewish leaders did see the danger of self glorification, however, Jesus and his friends recognized athletics for what it was and that is the highest order of play, and when a person engages in the highest order of play then they can become closer to God; this is something that children intuitively understand, but a child’s understanding often becomes smothered by adult social convention.” “Anyway, Jesus and his friends use to keep their activities fairly covert, and eventually only Jesus practiced pushing his body to its physical limits in every conceivable fashion whenever he got the chance and he did this alone; much the same way you or I have done when lifting weights, stretching, sprinting, or any other numerous physical activities.”

      Neo said, “Jesus used this same intent and discipline to train his mind or intellect, and to balance his emotions, and to seek spiritual knowledge, and to finally integrate all of this together, and that is how he learned that not only did he have a dual nature that all human beings have, but he was able to break the veil to realize that he also had a current and a previous divine nature.”

      I said, “I am confused as to how Jesus would have access to seeing or knowing about the Greek games or how his parents had access to the level of education that they possessed.”

      Neo said, “Where Jesus lived was the epicenter for that part of the world’s trade routes for commerce from countries all over the known world.” “As a boy during his free time when his studies and chores were done, he took the time to meet and talk to travelers from all over the world.” “It was in this way that his open mind learned of all of the religions and spiritual disciplines of his current time and of historical times.” “He learned all manner of thinking, philosophy, scientific thought and technologies of his day.”

      Neo said, “Jesus was like a sponge as a child & he knew how to be discriminating and selective with keeping what was useful.” “In addition to people traveling to his area of the world, as Jesus got older he would travel with his father to visit relatives in distant places and he would be involve with the religious exodus to certain Jewish centers of learning and worship.”

“Jesus was seen as being especially bright and many of the Jewish leaders of the day had taken it for granted that he would enroll in their religious schools and become a distinguished scholar.”

      He said, “Jesus’ father Joseph was a contractor and eventually he gained enough wealth to have people work for him and he was able to procure contracts with people and businesses of wealth in distant places and it was also during these times when Jesus traveled with his father.”

      I said, “When you say that Jesus became aware of his previous divinity, what do you mean…are you talking about reincarnation?”

      Neo said, “Yes and no, at least not reincarnation as most people think of it, but that is something that is best to go over at a later date.” “Right now I am trying to make my point on how Jesus failed.”

      I said, “So tell more on how Jesus failed, I am not entirely clear on what you mean.”

      Neo said, “First off let me ask you if you know what a scapegoat is?”

      I said, “Yeah, it is when people blame other people for their failures or like Hitler, he used the Jews as a scapegoat promising that doing so would eliminate all of the German people’s woes.”

      Neo said, “That is correct, but in pre-Christian times, the priest in the early tribal days, when the tribe had been experiencing all sorts of bad luck, they would take a goat from their herd and then the priest would perform a ritual to cast all of the woes and sins of the tribe into the goat and then cast the goat into the wilderness.”

      I laughed and I said, how did it progress from goats to crucifixions?”

      Neo said, “It is human nature to hope for a superman or a superior hero to lead and champion their cause.”

“To an extent this is understandable, but not only do people want their heroes and leaders to be superior, the majority of people in many cultures want their heroes to endure and suffer at levels a thousand percent greater than they themselves would ever dare to do.”

      I said, “Jesus did not have to follow the prophecy, so why did he?”

      Neo said, “Jesus was trying to show people that if they followed his example and lived the way he lived, believed the way he believed, and have the faith of a child or a mustard seed then they would have access to the kingdom of heaven everyday while they were alive.” “Jesus tried to show his fellow Jews that if they would understand what he understood, they would survive their bodies and keep their egos in addition to attaining an immortal soul instead of the annihilation by dissipation which is what most people face at the time of death.”

      I said, “If Jesus was aware of all this, why would he allow himself to be set up for crucifixion?”

      Neo said, “This is why Jesus is the most amazing man.” “Just imagine yourself in his situation…imagine your self as the most perfectly developed well rounded specimen as far as normal men go.” “Then imagine that you have the intellect, education, and understanding of the psychology of human beings, their flaws, their strengths…their hopes, dreams and aspirations, and their fears, their pain, their suffering.”

      Neo continued and said, “Imagine that you have immeasurable compassion and love for your fellow man and you have the key to both their earthly salvation and their non-corporeal salvation.”

“Imagine that you know that this key can be given to them and can be utilized by them, and that if your fellow men knew and accepted this fact, you would not have to suffer the fear, humiliation and pain of torture, crucifixion and finally the death of the body.”

      Neo said, “Imagine that no matter what you tell people, no matter how much you try and show them, they don’t want to do the work. They just want you to fix them, and in fact the prophecy born from fear, laziness, and wishful thinking make the masses of people feel as if they are entitled to be saved without living the life that Jesus presents.” Imagine if you were a man of courage and conviction that Jesus was/is and you knew that if you continued to preach and teach what you knew was the truth that you would run afoul evil people who felt threaten that their power and position would be diminished if the masses followed you.”

      He said, “Imagine that you knew that running afoul with these people that it was more likely that the prophecy would be fulfilled and that would mean a shit load a bad news for you.” Neo went on and said, “Imagine that you continued to speak your mind hoping that the masses “get it” and stood up to the priests to protect you so you would not be vilified, demonized, incarcerated, tortured and imprisoned, and that by them having the faith to “get it” not only would you be protected but they would have reached a point to where they were saved. Saved in every real and relevant day-to-day manner.”

      Neo said, “Imagine that despite your fear, your pleadings, your examples that the masses still want to see the blood, they still want to see the miracle, they still want some one else to do the suffering for them and they want to benefit without doing the hard work themselves.”

      Neo said, “Imagine how it would make you weep when you know that you are going stand by your word, you will refuse to denounce the truth that you have spoken, and you will willfully fulfill the prophecy that really did not have to be fulfilled just so that the people may hopefully get it.”

      Neo said, “Imagine how what you would think, how you would feel to know that most of your efforts have failed and that you knew your were going to face unspeakable public and private humiliation, unspeakable betrayal by your own people, unspeakable amount of torture and pain, crucifixion and a slow death….just because the people demanded a scapegoat.”

      I felt a thrill & a little misty eyed thinking of the courage of Christ.

      I said, “He definitely sounds like a stand up guy.”

      Neo said, Indeed he was. He could have avoided crucifixion, but he chose to take the route that Socrates had taken almost five hundred years before him.” “He chose not to live a life of compromise.” Most importantly, he chose not to allow himself to be compromised.”

      I said, “Some of my Sicilian relatives say that Socrates was really Sicilian because he had balls” I would imagine that after hearing you speak of Jesus they would think that Jesus was really Sicilian because he also had balls.”

      Neo smiled & laughed, “Yes…I know what the Sicilians, mean when they want to know if someone has balls, or when they acknowledge or admire if someone has balls.” “With the Sicilians this means that a person who has balls, they possess courage in the extreme.” “To them people with balls will put everything on the line rather than compromise themselves.” “To the Sicilians & many Italian families, honor & courage is everything.”

      Neo took a firm tone, “Now let us get off of this tangent and get back to Jesus and you will see that he had balls as big as this planet.”

      Feeling humorously contrite I said, “Okay.”

      Neo said, “Imagine how you will feel that many of your people, your friends, your followers, and many of your family have doubted you regardless of your miracles, regardless of your rational, practical, and magical preaching, teachings.” “Regardless of the many living examples and yet the only thing that may have a chance of turning them around is fulfilling a prophecy that for all practical purposes initially did not have to be entertained.”

      Neo said, “How do you think you would feel if you were in his place and you knew that everything you preached, taught, shown, would be betrayed, and you would be tortured, crucified, vilified, demonized, die and then be resurrected (Survived the body), and you knew that people being the way they are would misunderstand and perversely twist and then misuse your teachings for evil gains or out of honest and loving but misguided belief of what their misguided ministers teach them for a few millennium until your second coming.”

      I was listening to Neo’s entire speech feeling a growing sense of desolation of what Jesus must have felt, and all I could think was, “How absolutely horrible and tragically wasteful…how horrible.”

      I said, “What is the sense of it all…why would Jesus do such a thing?”

      Neo said, “Because he was filled with love and he wanted so much to save mankind.” “Jesus knew right from the moment that he realized his true nature that he was doomed to crucifixion.”

      I said, “That’s because he was the son of God, he would know such things.”

      Neo said, “No, even a person who is reasonably bright could have seen it coming.” “Yet he did it anyway, because of his love, and his courage of conviction…Jesus was/is a courageous as any Sicilian or Samurai.”

      I said, “I don’t understand why he did not simply finagle to get into power… to seize power the way Mohammad had done many centuries later, or use his intelligence to wrest the political power from the priests”

      Neo said, “What would that have done?” “Then his military or political might would have just been a change of face in a system that has always existed….the people would have still been supplicant and dependent on systems to do things for them without interacting and taking responsibility for every aspect of their lives as Jesus knew they needed to do.” “Jesus knew that the only way for all people’s salvation is for them to take charge in their own evolution…their mental evolution….their physical evolution……their emotional evolution…and of course their spiritual evolution.”

      Neo said, “Jesus knew that people needed to also be responsible for themselves and stand up for themselves and each other in regards to their political leaders and their religious leaders and to love and help each other.” “Instead of giving people a change of political or religious face, he wanted to teach them to change themselves because that is the heart of all change…change the people and you change a political and religious landscape.”

      Neo said, “That is what I was trying to point out to all of you at the gym when we talked about the political system and what we could do.” “This is what you all finally figured out after a lot of Socratic questioning.”

      I asked, “Are you saying that the people failed themselves and failed Jesus, and that is why you say Jesus would fail, then why did God give up his only begotten son? Why didn’t Jesus show them more miracles to let the people know beyond a doubt of the power that he possessed?” “Why didn’t Jesus use his power to negate his suffering and to negate his pain as he was being tortured, and when he was being crucified?”

      Neo said, “What would that have done?” “The miracles could have swayed the people to become slavish to Jesus…something he did not want, and he tried to keep the miracles down, for two reasons, --- one he wanted to get through life as a normal man…a superior man, but normal … at levels that most people could attain if they worked on themselves.”

      Neo continued and said, “Two, Jesus knew that whenever he met someone who had not witnessed the miracles, they would demand a dog and pony show, or if they had seen it they kept demanding to keep seeing miracles; three, his detractors responded to the miracles by saying that his ability to perform them was given by Satan, and many of his followers whined that they could not even begin to live the way Jesus did because he had the unfair advantage of being the son of God.” “Jesus knew that performing miracles aside from healing people was not important and not the main reason to live the way he lived.”

      Neo said, “With regards to his using his abilities to lessen his pain, even the most advanced Yogis cannot stay subjected to torture indefinitely without leaving their bodies by dying, and Jesus knew that if he had to be forced to take part in their prophecy, he needed to suffer, because his message was that he would endure unspeakable suffering to get across the most important message of his teachings.”

      The horror of what Neo was portraying overwhelmed me with unspeakable grief that I had not felt since I saw the poverty in Juarez. Suddenly and without warning I began to weep at the senselessness of it all. I was filled with shame that I lost my manly exterior in front of a man I really did not know that well and felt was someone that was invincible to grief.
      I hid my face in my hands to hide my tears and my shame.

Instead of Neo treating with sharp disdain for my emotional outburst. He looked at me with compassion and understanding.

Neo sighed long and mournful, “I have wept more than a few times when I have considered what he did and what was wasted.”

      After ten minutes and an eternity, I regained most of my composure.

I ached to know more so I stumble forward with more questions.

       “You’re saying that the most important message is that we need to follow all of his examples to attain the power to enter the kingdom of heaven and to build a better social, religious orders?”

      Neo said, “Yes, that is what I am saying.” “Unfortunately Christianity in modern times is woefully misunderstood; so called Christians can say silly things, such as, ‘I am as sinner and imperfect and I cannot hope to reach the perfection of Jesus, yet if I simply believe Jesus existed and is the son of God, --- then I am saved no matter what I do…as long as I consistently admit my sins and in a whining voice plead for forgiveness.”

      Neo said, “This current mindset is dangerous and people fool themselves into thinking that they can indulge in sin, and not be required to work on themselves in everyway necessary to reach the kingdom of heaven, to survive the body.” “This is why Jesus failed.”

      I whistled and said, “What you’re saying would infuriate a lot of people if you tell them that Jesus made a mistake and failed… that is implying that he is imperfect and wrong.”

      Neo said, “Yes, a lot of people would be pissed off, and ironically, the more that people are pissed, is an indication of how much off the path of Jesus they are; this type of person really gets angry when their laziness and irrational behavior is exposed and taken to task.” ”But Jesus is not imperfect and he was not wrong, he knew all of this and still went ‘the distance’…he knew that the fault, imperfection and weakness was because the mass of humanity refuse to go the distance, that they will whine and tell you it is impossible for them to go the distance.”

      Neo said, “Jesus knew he would fail because people are lazy, purposively irrational, and filled with fear… that is why he predicted his second coming… that is why he predicted that the majority of Christians were to a greater or lesser degree wolves in sheep’s clothing… that is why he said, most of them would not enter the kingdom of heaven because they would not “get it”, because they could not go the distance.”

“In fact Revelations predicted that even after the second coming of Jesus, the mass of humanity will be given a choice, Satan or Jesus’ Kingdom of Heaven, and it is said that the number of people who go to Satan is like the sands of the oceans.”

      I said, “Are you saying that if we all “got it” that Jesus would not have to come back a second time?”

      Neo said, “Yes that’s right.”

      I said, “Holy shit, what your describing is a pretty darn tough discipline, --more rigorous than any training program than I had ever seen.” “How could anyone follow such a strict discipline? How loving is that to expect people to endure those rigors?”

      Neo said, “It is the most loving thing imaginable, and what Jesus presented was a several tiered system of endeavors that would allow people to attain a level of social, personal, and spiritual comfort that they had earned.” “Jesus never claimed that by following his path that it would be a Pollyannaish rose garden…no…he was very clear that the path was tough, and he even said, “Many will knock at the kingdom of heaven but very few would be admitted.”

      I said, “But Jesus said that God gave them the gift of salvation free.”

      Neo said, “That’s right, they don’t have to pay God anything….they don’t have to give the temple of church more money…but they have to do the work of trying to find the free gift and then they have to do the work of unwrapping the gift.” “Jesus said the gift was offered freely but to hold on to it was tough.”

      I asked, “When you talk of several tiers what do you mean?” “Are you talking about second and third chances through reincarnation….and what about the body of Jesus disappearing from the tomb?”

      Neo said, “I think we should attend to those questions during another camping trip.” “Let’s cap this off by looking at many of the “practicing Christians” that you have met…some of them are absolute hypocrites that commit sins with regularity.” “They use their Christian façade to hide their true nature…to become more acceptable to the public; and some of them have even fooled themselves that at the time of their impending death they can wail and beg forgiveness and they will make it to heaven.”

      Neo said, “Then you have the other Christians who are not hypocrites, but weak and they indulge in less than Christian behavior at times but for the most part they try to live the golden rule…their level of salvation will be higher than the first group.” “Then there is the next group and they are so righteous they almost never indulge in the obvious sins and they make a pretty good effort to help their fellow man… their level of salvation will be higher than the second group.” “The next group are much like the third group but in addition they are now and then able to get into the mystical aspect of what Christ was also trying to teach and they sometime occasionally glimpse at the kingdom of heaven, and they occasionally experience a descent of “Grace” from God.

      “Obviously they reach a level of salvation that is higher than the first three groups, and they have a little better chance of entering the kingdom of heaven when they die, in the manner that Jesus taught. Neo said, “There are several more levels and we can talk about at a later date.”

      I said, “What about the people who are not saved, what happens to them in life and in death…where do they go…do they go to hell, limbo, to purgatory or what?”

      Neo said, “There is all of those other “Places” if we can call them that, but they are not the way most people think….we will also talk about this at a later date.” “Can we agree that Jesus failed his mission, or perhaps to be more correct the people he wanted to save failed themselves and failed him?” The entire conversation was exhilarating, thought provoking, sad, dismal and depressing.

      I let out a huge sad stress relieving sigh and my tears and grief threatened once again to spill forth, but this time I managed to dam it back. “Yes, I am sorry to say I agree with you.”

      Neo said, “You look like you need to sleep, I’m going to stay up and meditate.”

      I agreed to turn in and as I looked at him I pondered how he was able to stay perfectly comfortable in only a loin cloth. Yes he was near the fire, but the entire day and evening even before the fire he seemed to do better than simply tolerate the elements. At that time of year, it got pretty warm if you were moving about vigorously, yet in the evening it got brisk. I could not help but think about my own tolerance to the cold…I could sleep in fifty degree temperatures with just a light blanket, yet on this day the plunging temperature had me progressively and begrudgingly adding on layers of clothing as the night went on. When I turned into my bedroll, I was still quite chilled and stay that way all night and yet Neo was squatting barefooted and practically naked in his leather loin cloth. As I promised myself that I would ask him in the morning I went into the sweet oblivion of sleep. 

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